Alice A. Bailey

From Bethlehem to Calvary

p. 30: Then when the Lords of Compassion shall have spiritually civilised the Earth and made of it a Heaven, … help to fulfil the Law of the Higher Evolution, of which Nirvana is but the beginning.”

p. 94: We have talked of the kingdom of Heaven in terms of separation. We are either in that kingdom or out of it. We are told that we must step out of the kingdom of men (controlled by the world, the flesh and the devil) into another kingdom which is pictured as utterly different.

p. 209: But the abundant life is surely not a life to be lived hereafter, in some distant heaven where those who are believers shall enjoy an exclusive life of happiness, whilst the rest of God's children are left outside.

p. 210: People are no longer interested in a possible heavenly state or a probable hell. They need to learn that the kingdom is here, and must express itself on earth; ...

p. 235: We have taught the doctrine of hell-fire and eternal punishment, and then tried to fit it in to the general belief that God is love.

p. 246: Equally surely, none of us are pleased to contemplate the old idea of a sugary heaven wherein we pass our time clothed in white robes, singing and talking upon religious matters. We have outgrown these ideas, and to them Christ Himself is a direct refutation.

p. 247: In short, a continuance of the personal self in some heaven which is the extension of our own individual consciousness, and the concept of an endless eternity lived with oneself, have for most of us no allurement whatsoever.

p. 252: "The resurrection is not the rise of the dead from their tombs but the passage from the death of selfabsorption to the life of unselfish love, the transition from the darkness of selfish individualism to the light of universal spirit, from falsehood to truth, from the slavery of the world to the liberty of the eternal. ...'" The Supreme Spiritual Ideal, by S. Radhakrishnan, Hibbert Journal, October, 1936

p. 250-251: This latter theory is beautifully summarised in a book dealing with the secret doctrines of the Tibetan philosophy:

"... when the Lords of Compassion shall have spiritually civilised the Earth and made of it a Heaven, there will be revealed to the Pilgrims the Endless Path, which reaches to the Heart of the Universe. Man, then no longer man, will transcend Nature, and impersonally, yet consciously, in at-one-ment with all the Enlightened Ones, help to fulfil the Law of the Higher Evolution, of which Nirvana is but the beginning." Tibetan Yoga and Secret Doctrines, edited by W.Y. Evans-Wentz, p. 12

Here we have the idea of the kingdom of God appearing on earth because humanity is spiritually civilised, and the attainment of the perfection which Christ inculcated.

p. 276: To be immortal because one's sins are forgiven seems an inadequate reason to an intelligent mind; to have everlasting life because Christ died two thousand years ago does not prove satisfactory to the man who is conscious of his own responsibility and his own identity; to live for ever because one is religious, or has accepted certain forms of belief, is a reason repudiated by the man who is aware of his own inner power and nature; to base one's faith in survival upon tradition or even upon an innate sense of persistence does not seem sufficient.

Parousia

  • Helena P. Blavatsky in Lucifer: A Theosophical Magazine, September 1887 to February 1888, p. 173: "... the coming of Christ," means the presence of CHRISTOS in a regenerated world, and not at all the actual coming in body of "Christ" Jesus ... for Christ - the true esoteric SAVIOUR - is no man, but the DIVINE PRINCIPLE in every human being.


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Emergent Church

  • Rob Bell i Fløyelselvis, med referanse til The Divine Conspiracy av Dallas Willard, s. 145: For Jesus var ikke evig liv en tilstand i fremtiden som vi skulle få del i et annet sted - det var en livskvalitet som begynner her og nå. ... Poenget er ikke å kontrollere synden.
  • Rob Bell i FløyelsElvis, s. 149: For Jesus var ikke spørsmålet: Hvordan kan jeg komme til himmelen? Det var: Hvordan kan jeg bringe himmelen hit?
  • Rob Bell in Velvet Elvis, p. 147: For Jesus, the question wasn’t how do I get into Heaven? but how do I bring heaven here?
  • Rob Bell i Fløyelselvis, s. 151-152: Hele Bibelen taler om en Gud som ønsker å være her sammen med sitt folk. Senere omtales menigheten som Guds tempel. Og hvordan slutter Bibelen? Med Gud som "kommer ned" og tar bolig her på jorden. Sann åndelighet dreier seg altså ikke om å komme bort fra denne verden og til et annet sted der vi skal være i all evighet. Den kristne er ikke én som tror at han skal tilbringe evigheten i himmelen. Den kristne er én som ser frem til å leve her i evigheten, i en ny himmel som kommer ned til jorden. Målet er ikke å komme bort fra denne verden, men å gjøre denne verden til et sted som Gud kan komme til. Og Gud forvandler oss til mennesker som er i stand til å utføre en slik oppgave.
  • Rob Bell in Velvet Elvis, p. 150: True spirituality then is not about escaping this world to some other place where we will be forever. A Christian is not someone who expects to spend forever in heaven there. A Christian is someone who anticipates spending forever here, in a new heaven that comes to earth.
    The goal isn’t escaping this world but making this world the kind of place God can come to. And God is remaking us into the kind of people who can do this kind of work.
  • Rob Bell in Velvet Elvis, p. 150: When people use the word hell, what do they mean? They mean a place, an event, a situation absent of how God desires things to be. Famine, debt, oppression, loneliness, despair, death, slaughter - they are all hell on earth.
  • Rob Bell i Fløyelselvis, s. 175: Helt sentralt i å gjenvinne skaperverket og være et fellesskap under den oppstandne står stadfestelsen av at da Gud skapte verden, sa han at det var "godt". Og det er det fremdeles. Mat og musikk og kunst og venner og historier og elver og vann og hav og latter og ... sa jeg mat? Gud har gitt oss livet, og Gud ønsker at vi skal leve det. Det er menighetens oppgave å føre an og stadfelset – og enda viktigere: nyte skaperverkets godhet! Vi skal ikke noe annet sted ved tidenes ende, for denne verden er vårt hjem. ... Noe av det mest tragiske som noen gang har skjedd med evangeliet, var at vi begynte å tale om at Jesus skulle føre oss til et annet sted dersom vi trodde på ham.  Bibelen ender med at Gud kommer hit.
  • Rob Bell i Sex&Gud, s. 190: Det Johannes får se, er ikke mennesker som bryter opp og reiser til et annet sted. Han ser Gud som stigr ned for å bo og være blant oss.
  • Brian McLaren in Christianity Today, November 2004: What does it mean to be 'saved'? When I read the Bible, I don't see it meaning, 'I'm going to heaven after I die.'
  • Brian McLaren in The Secret Message of Jesus, p. 78: Instead of being about the kingdom of God coming to earth, the Cristian religion har too often become preoccupied with abandoning or escaping the earth and going to heaven.
  • Brian McLaren in The Last Reformation … and the Next Reformation, October 31, 2017: The last reformation argued which church had the best guarantee to evacuate souls to heaven after death. The next reformation seeks to build a movement to protect God’s beloved creation, including all people (no exceptions), from human sin before death.
  • Brian McLaren in A Generous Orthodoxy, p.254: This is how I feel when I’m offered a choice between the roads of exclusivism {only confessing Christians go to heaven}, universalism {everyone goes to heaven}, and inclusivism {Christians go to heaven, plus at least some others}. Each road takes you somewhere, to a place with some advantages and disadvantages, but none of them is the road of my missional calling: blessed in this life to be a blessing to everyone on earth.
  • Brian McLaren in The Secret Message of Jesus, p. 296: We believe the vision of the new Jerusalem, like all prophetic visions, seeks to inspire our imaginations with hope about what our world can actually become through the good news of the kingdom of God.

    In this emerging view, the "new heaven and new earth" (Revelation 21:1) means, not a different space-time universe, but a new way of living that is possible within this universe, a new societal system that is coming as surely as God is just and faithful. ... The new Jerusalem represents, then, a new spirituality, a new way of living in which the sacred presence of God is integrated with all of life and not confined to temples ...We have¨'t evacuated the dark earth for the light of heaven or eternity; no, the light of heaven has come down, come down to us, down to earth.

  • Brian McLaren in The Story We Find Ourselves in, p. 153-154: Kerry: "That's heaven! To be with God, and to be gathered together with all that I have ever been." ... Neo: "it's not just you that you are reunited with there. And it's not just God either. In God, you find yourself, and you find everything and everyone, everything and everyone that God has remembered, everything and everyone that have passed through God's judgment, which retains only the good and true and beautiful."
  • Brian McLaren in Everything Must Change, p. 146: The Jesus of the emerging reading we have considered in the preceding chapters tells us the opposite: that good will prevail by peace, love, truth, faithfulness, and courageous endurance of suffering, and that domination, violence, and torture are among the things that will be overcome.  In this view, no good deed will be forgotten or wasted, so we should start doing the next good thing now, faithfully continue, and never give up until the dream comes true.  Even if doing so will cost us our life, we must press on, because death is not the end, and even death itself canot stop the advance of the peace and love of God.  For this Jesus, love and grace - not violence and domination - finally win.
  • Brian McLaren in The Church in Emerging Culture, p. 213: But now I wonder if this gospel about how to get your soul into Heaven after death is really only a ghost of the real gospel that Jesus talked about, which seemed to have something to do with God’s will being done on earth now, not just in Heaven later.
  • Brian McLaren in Last Word, p. xii: ...the conventional doctrine of hell has too often engendered a view of a deity who suffers from borderline personality disorder or some worse sociopathic diagnosis. God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life, and if you don’t love God back and cooperate with God’s plans in exactly the prescribed way, God will torture you with unimaginable abuse, forever–that sort of thing.
  • Brian McLaren in Last Word, p. xvii: This book, in a sense, attempts to deconstruct our conventional concepts of hell in the sincere hope that a better vision of the gospel of Jesus Christ will appear.
  • Rob Bell in Love Wins: This (the belief in Hell) is misguided and toxic and ultimately subverts the contagious spread of Jesus' message of love, peace, forgiveness and joy that our world desperately needs to hear."
  • N T Wright in Reimagining Our Mission as God’s Agents of New Creation in the World, Future of the People of God Conference 2007: We look back to the decisive event of Jesus and his cross and resurrection, we look on to God’s promise, which is not, not, not as I said yesterday that we will all go to heaven when we die in some disembodied platonic faraway place, but that God will make new heavens and new earth in which true justice will dwell. That’s the biblical promise.
  • Carl McColman in The Big Book of Christian Mysticism, p. 70: I rather like to think of it [our ultimate destiny in God] as "living in Heaven Consciousness." And the amazing truth of Christian mysticism is that this vision, this communion, this consciousness is available to all of us - right here, right now.  You can begin to live in Heaven Consciousness today.
  • Carl McColman in The Big Book of Christian Mysticism, p. 255: Mysticism is, ultimately, simply the art of going to heaven before you die - or, perhaps better said, the art of letting heaven emerge within you now.

Parousia

  • Brian McLaren in Everything Must Change, p. 144: The phrase "the Second Coming of Christ" never actually appears in the Bible. Whether or not the doctrine to which the phrase refers deserves rethinking, a popular abuse of it certainly needs to be named and rejected. If we believe that Jesus came in peace the first time, but that wasn't his "real" and decisive coming - it was just a kind of warm-up for the real thing - then we leave the door open to envisioning a second coming that will be characterized by violence, killing, domination, and eternal torture.
  • Brian McLaren in http://blog.sojo.net/2009/04/16/four-points-toward-peace-in-the-middle-east/: If you hold to a deterministic-dispensationalist [that Jesus is coming again in the flesh] or Zionist theology, I sincerely hope you will rethink your view. I grew up with these views as well, and have become thoroughly convinced that they are not only biblically unfaithful but also, in too many cases, morally and ethically harmful.
  • Brian McLaren in A New Kind of Christianity, p. 198: Parousia, in this way, would signal the full arrival, presence, and manifistation of a new age in human history.  It would mean the presence or appearance on earth of a new generation of humanity. Christ again present, embodied in a community of people who truly possess and express his Spirit, continuing his work. ... It would be the age of love rather than circumcision or other in-group markers as the prime identification of the people of God. It would be an age in which the cult of animal sacrifice and related atonement mechanisms would be passe'.
   


The Bible

Revelation 1:7: Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all tribes of the earth will wail [/moum] on account of him. Even so. Amen.

Ellen G. White

The Great Controversy, p. 556.3: If there were no other evidence of the real character of spiritualism, it should be enough for the Christian that the spirits make no difference between righteousness and sin, between the noblest and purest of the apostles of Christ and the most corrupt of the servants of Satan. By representing the basest of men as in heaven, and highly exalted there, Satan says to the world: “No matter how wicked you are; no matter whether you believe or disbelieve God and the Bible. Live as you please; heaven is your home.”

The Great Controversy, p. 560.3: In the class here described are included those who in their stubborn impenitence comfort themselves with the assurance that there is to be no punishment for the sinner; that all mankind, it matters not how corrupt, are to be exalted to heaven, to become as the angels of God. But still more emphatically are those making a covenant with death and an agreement with hell, who renounce the truths which Heaven has provided as a defense for the righteous in the day of trouble, and accept the refuge of lies offered by Satan in its stead—the delusive pretensions of spiritualism.